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 10-08-2003, 08:46 Post: 65803
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Tom, those indexing cylinders sound like regular cylinders with a priority valve built in, and probably a big price tag built in too. The valve is something like $70 Cdn. at Princess Auto, I would have to wonder if special cylinders could be any cheaper.

Art, there are lots of those maintainers around, no doubt, but I'm sure there are lots of people out there who would rather just buy a pre-made, pre-engineered, quality product, take it home and start to work it. Not everyone has, or has access to, a well equipped shop for fabricating such things. I doubt you could hire a local fabricating shop to make one any cheaper than they could be produced in even small runs.

Now, for the survey, how many people cut their own firewood, and wish there was a way to do it using their existing chain saw, but do it in such a way as to greatly reduce back strain while greatly improving production and safety. The cost would be minimal, but some welding, etc., would be involved.

Let me know folks.

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 10-08-2003, 09:54 Post: 65809
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Murf, I cut my own firewood. Back pain was a real problem until I got the tractor. Now a friend comes over and I use the grapple to hold the logs a few feet up while my buddy cuts em. If I'm by myself the more tools the better, so I'd be interested in what you are thinking.






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 10-08-2003, 11:03 Post: 65815
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Ken, basically it's a heavy duty table on which you place the logs, complete with a ramp for loading if desired. It has a mechanism into which you clamp your chainsaw, which is counter-balanced to reduce the weight of the saw to whatever point you want and allows you to work the saw with complete safety with only one hand, provided you keep the other one out from underneath of the saw, Laughing out loud. This frees the other hand to move and steady the wood. The cut wood can drop straight into a wheelbarrow or any other type of carrier.

You end up with very uniform cuts. All work is done at waist-level and you have very little handling of the wood, definitely no stooping and picking up over & over.

I am building a prototype, I'll post some pic.s when it's done.

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 10-08-2003, 11:18 Post: 65816
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Sounds basically like a chopsaw for logs. That's a good idea! The ramp could have a crank driven belt so you can just crank it and the log will move up the ramp.






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 10-08-2003, 11:33 Post: 65819
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Sounds like you guys are talking about one of these babys. Wink yeah right






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 10-08-2003, 11:44 Post: 65820
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Chief, that's a nice machine! Unfortunately it would never pay for itself in my lifetime.






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 10-08-2003, 11:48 Post: 65821
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Exactly what I thought when I first saw it. You would have to sell some SERIOUS firewood to off set $50,000! Oh well, it is nice to look at. The 80 hp John Deere was a nice point as well. Wink yeah right Maybe when I the lottery or inherit millions of dollars ehhh?






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 10-08-2003, 12:30 Post: 65824
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Ken, you getting pretty close with that idea, the only difference being in my design the saw blade is horizontal and stays that way, the saw goes striaght vertically up and down, it does not pivot.

Pivoting the saw from the tip of the blade is not the safest or most convenient way to do it, it is cheaper to build a jig to do it that way though. Also, by making the entire saw go up and down while staying horizontal you don't have to reach as far up for the handle while still getting decent clearance under the blade, it's easier to make an adjustable stop to limit the raising to just enough to clear the log.

I didn't feel the need to mechanize the feed, it would only make the whole thing more complicated, expensive and heavy. I did however envision a small stopper to prevent ramped wood from clogging the table, then a small hook on a handle, maybe 2' long just to pull the log over the stopper and into position for cutting, it could also be used to pull the log from the far end into the sawing position.

Chief, the firewood processor has been around for a long time, primarily in the Nordic countries. They are too expensive to justify for anything but a purely commercial operation, a homowner would never get their money back. Even the smallest PTO (no power unit to buy) start at about US$10,000 and even if you counted nothing for your labour or tractor to power it you would still not save anything over buying wood already processed. Around here big mobile processors can be hired for US$10 per full cord, for reasonable minimum quantities. At that rate you would need to process upwards of 1,500 full cords before you even got your investment back.

I'm talking about something that could be built in a weekend for a cost of maybe $150 and using the saw they already have, allow someone to easily cut a couple of cords a day, and still be able to walk the next day, Laughing out loud.

Plans available, line up to the left of your screen, Laughing out loud.

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 10-08-2003, 12:35 Post: 65825
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Hey Murf, I got a good idea for a new implement.

As you know, there are many old drilled water wells that have dried up. Since they are no longer fit for anything, why not make an implement that can pull these wells out of the ground? Then you can cut the old well into prefabbed post holes Wink yeah right






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 10-08-2003, 12:56 Post: 65827
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I don't know about down there, but here in Canada that would be illegal. The ONLY legal way to abandon a drilled well, even a gas well for that matter, is to plug it by pouring it full of cement.

This is done so as to prevent surface water, or water from the ground-water table from entering and polluting the aquifers farther down, including someone nearby's drinking water supply.

9 points for creativity though......

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