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Dr. David Suzuki makes the arguement that the main source for real change in society is technology. If you think about it technology is the major source for change in our dayly lives. Let's face it 20 years ago I might have been on the internet but it wasn't at home on my own personal computer and only covered text or files. Only other researchers were on the system so you discussion was limited.
If you give people a test in technology guess who scores dead last, small business men and lawyers. Who do we elect into positions of authority to manage the country?
If we are filling the houses of government with the wrong people can we expect capable government? We need a mix that represents the people and capable of making good decisions, but send a monolithic element. The public is so feed up that any crediable person outside the mold will be elected. Look at the recent governor races in California or Minnisota.
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And I didn't think anyone would respond to this post!
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Don't know what to say but it seems to me that there is very coherent leadership at present in both public and private sectors. That leadership seems to be doing a bang up job of supporting the corporate person and all that entails. I'd forget about much moral and ethical restraint or societal and national loyalties because pursuit of profit is everything.
In economic growth, someone or something always is exploited and has to be. I'd just get used to the idea that it's the turn of the N.A. ordinary person to suffer the exploitation for what ever is being built and for whoever eventually benefits. Workers are just production factors and commodities, so forget about nice nice. Most of us will be bled, betrayed and bamboozled as fodder for whatever the future holds.
We may not have much choice about bled and betrayed but we can choose bamboozled or not and we can learn to survive the rage that the exploited always suffer. We can learn who are friends are and maybe government can again instill a measure of restraint on corporate excesses. Maybe the future will prove worth it but good questions might be 'What is being built, who benefits and who are our friends?
Societies have tolerated excesses to carve modern industrial societies from wildernesses and they also have built depraved empires and medieval aristocracies. For myself I don't feel like suffering much exploitation to build several of those futures. Why is it that when politicians are so widely believe to be corrupt and act in their own interests do we expect that they'll take care of ours? Why when CEO's are widely believed to be greedy crooks do we expect fairness. Why is it that the economy will collapse unless CEO's make an average of 110 times that of their workers but we import luxury cars from strong economies where the ratio is more like 15 times. As I said we have a choice of bamboozled or not.
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I think we are working on something much worse than the depression. I can't see any way of stopping it. The economy is this big machine that keeps on going with little change and effect from outside interference. We would rather blame someone (the President) than really attempt to fix the problem. The people with their attitudes and purchasing habits are the route cause of the problem.
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I agree people's lack of information is part of the problem. We all remember when people slammed Walmart for being a proveyer of Chinese goods. Walmat responded with a made in America program of advertisement. After the pressure had passed it was business as usual.
Their latest add talks of reclaiming a business district in a town. In this area they have left one derelick building in each town that has a Walmat, moving to a new structure as the business grew.
Social conscience as long as the heat is on or the advertisements are not effective.
The news media in this country is controlled by large corporations. Their goal like all the other companies is greed. How then should we view the media? Why is it trusted at all?
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I'm anti-Walmart. Walmart is trying to build a store in Tawas Michigan. They have talked with the City council and have asked for tax rebates and other concessions for Tawas to have the priviledge of Walmart's presence. They will add low paying jobs to the area. We know that all of the other local businesses pay tax committments and attempt to pay their employees a decent wage. The little guys will go out of business, while the experieced employees can then go to Walmart and work for a lesser wage. The community overall is worse off with its tax base but would have a nice looking building.
Businesses like K-mart that are 15 miles away and other small businesses 20-30 miles away will suffer. But that is progress and the benefits of purchasing from a Fortune 500 company.
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Pete;
Don't look too close at the building. As with all Wally World products it is not all that it is cracked up to be. Ceco builds them one town over. I worked on the roofing for a time. Not exactly build to last.
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Everyone who responded here has a valid point. Money drives technology as much as technology advances society. Many American's who think of the man who owns a tractor, thinks of that man as a stereotype. Perhaps, at best, a hayseed, lacking in intellect and earning his pay through drudgery. As those who posted here prove, that image is false. I am proud to tell my friends about this site because of the depth of the discourse, and the quality of the people who share this forum.
Education of the buying public will, I am afraid, come too late. So long as the products that are sub-standard, shoddy, ill-fitting, or just plain wrong continue to be purchased in sufficient quanities, the cycle will continue.
The suffering brought home by the events of Setember 11, 2001, should have been sufficient to awaken America's resolve. But it has not. ENRON, and the others that failed, should have been sufficient to put into motion the wheel of change. That has not happened to any great extent that I am aware of. So the public keeps on spending that shrinking paycheck on, well, for lack of a better word, garbage.
It is always dangerous to speak for others, however, the others I am speaking for now have gone on record in this forum as being dollar wise, acutely aware of the work required to earn a day's pay, and how easy it is to lose that pay if not careful. Our fellow North American's included, it is the person who wants to be an educated buyer, a person who wants to be efficient in work, a person who want's to be safe, that is the person who comes here. A far more enlightened bunch than the porker filling up on super-size meals or the latte slurping narcisus who thinks freedom is free for the taking.
I'd much rather spend my time on a tractor, or talking to you guys, then spend a night at Planet Hollywood. You guys are for real!
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Have to agree we are moving away from technology base. Every third world country in Asia is vying for "high Tech". We will not be serviced based either those jobs are going to India. I can't wait until I get a hire a lawyer from India or be treated by Chinese doctor at mucho savings!
We are still by far the worlds largest exporter!! Jobs and technology that is. Damn the politican brave enough to do something about it.
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Grinder is correct and wins a prize. There is NOBODY on this board regardless of what they do for a living or how much they make that can compete with 2.00 per hour labor to make any product or service he is told to make. The last time that this issue was brought up is was called slavery and caused the US Civil War. On the other hand, when you go to Wal-Mart how much of that China produced "low priced" stuff do you buy thinking you got a good deal???? We ALL want the lowest price on products and services till we lose our job to somebody willing to do the job for less $$$$$
Jobs lost to cheap foriegn competition is NEVER the problem till it happens to YOUR job right???????
THe linked article has MUCH truth to it. In a technology/machine based market the dumbest person is the person pushing the buttons and doing the low skill stuff. Give me 2 million dollars, a couple of presses, some packing machines and some 1.00 per hour labor and I will be in the oil filter business OVERNIGHT making an oil filter equal to or better than a 26.00 per hour UAW AC branded made oil filter. IT doesn't take to much smarts to figure out this problem.
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