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 04-08-2004, 10:32 Post: 82481
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Grinder, no offense taken. I enjoy honest open exchange of opinions and ideas.






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 04-08-2004, 10:49 Post: 82484
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Ted (Abbeywoods), thank you for your kind words, unfortunately few people, and not just in the US now just how much our two countries are intertwined in mutual defence.

Nor do very many know the level of military co-operation, both from the point of having been key in supplying the US & it's allies with aircraft (many of which were also built here) staged through our air base at Goose Bay Labrador which enabled the winning of WWII, to the supply through British Columbia of men & material to avoid a Japanese invasion through Alaska.

Even fewer people know just how many Canadians served IN the American forces, my father and I among them. In fact to this day there are a great many Canadians serving with & for the United states in mutual support & defence.

It is a great disappointment when I here comments slurring Canada for not doing more to support the states, and a great source of pride when we are recognized and thanked for making an un-selfish contribution.

I sincerely thank you,

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 04-08-2004, 13:12 Post: 82501
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Amen, and you are welcome, always,

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 04-17-2004, 05:04 Post: 83391
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So if cheap prices come from somebody's elses misery, I sure as hell am NOT going to start a campaign to pay higher prices to the local rich people to buy the same product for a higher price than WAl-Mart. That is what you call left wing liberal STUPIDITY. We are talking about Tawas,Michiagn on Lake Huron. If stupid is as stupid does why don't we tell all those real estate developers to start selling Lake Huron frontage for condo development for 50 dollars a frontage foot instead of 1000. OH NO.....That wouldn't be right would it??? It all in the view of "who's ox is being gored"?

I know a guy who is 70 plus years old and had a lake front place on Lake Huron he bought the early 1950s and paid 600 bucks for 200 foot of prime frontage. He has for years bitched and moaned about the high lake front property taxes that the goverment forced him to pay for his place. This SOB held out for 750,000 buckeroos and wouldn't take a dime less and then had the unmitigated gall to say Wal-Mart didn't need to open a store in Tawas to hurt the local merchant. Then the SOB bragged and said I sure screwed the goverment I got 750,000 and never came close to paying the property based on what the SEV value was. OHHHHH MANNNN".......the hypocricy of the "Great Depression" generation.






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 04-17-2004, 05:17 Post: 83399
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I think it all comes down to if your" buying or selling"?






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 04-17-2004, 05:53 Post: 83403
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Grinder,

You are 152% correct and win the prize. It also comes down to "I got my money now you go get yours while you pay more taxes to pay my medical bills". I have NEVER met a retired person who didn't think the goverment should pay 100% of his medical bills and drugs so people would not have to pay out of their own fat rich check books.


For example. I have a friend of mine's 102 year old grandmother just got a hip replacement paid for 100% by my tax dollars without her ever touching her 1.6 million checkbook dollars she got for selling some road right of way property to the goverment. I don't work my butt off to pay social security taxes for other rich people's medical bills. Did you ever wonder why a 102 year old EVEN NEEDS a new hip anyway???? If people in my age group bitch, we are called insensitive and compared to the money grubbing Republicans. There is no political party, when you see you hard earned wages going to somebody else, knowing that you will never see any benefits. The goverment pays for these expenses because the Liberal democratic Senators and congressman in Michigan, that are elected to office, wouldn't have 150,000 per year jobs. So they take my SS dollar and pay off the "old folks" medical bills and drugs to get their votes. I will never see any benefits like the ones the old folks are getting today because there won't be enought people working and paying taxes to pay my medical bills. That is FACT.

The only difference between a campaign contribution and a bribe is one happens AFTER the election. OLd people America is being bribed with overgenerous medical benefits. I wonder if my tax dollar is being used for Viagra??? Probably is!!!! The taxpayer is responsible for the old men's woody.






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 04-17-2004, 17:13 Post: 83426
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Just to wind you up a little more,
You realize that there is no SS trust
fund right? It is a"Lockbox" full of IOU's.






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 04-17-2004, 20:10 Post: 83446
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Yup. I know that....but last I heard the goverment has never bounced a check.






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 04-17-2004, 20:17 Post: 83449
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To touch on another subject, how many people you know who are on SS disability who are as normal as you and me and are less than 60....what a BIG joke? This "bad back crap" has got to end. I know a person right now who shops till she drops on a SS 100% disabilty of 2000 per month. While I work my ass off to pay for these "disabled" SOB's. But good ol jeffy is brutal and insensative if he calls out the people who are able bodied and freeload off the SS system. What a crock of left wing liberal socialist crap.






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 04-17-2004, 20:37 Post: 83451
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yeah i hear you im 23 years old by the time i get to "retierment age" they will have raised it to 80 years old and this 401k is a bunch of crap too. you pay in all that money what if the bottom foalls out of the stock market again and we go back in to the depretion area again well there goes all your money. And dont even get me started an how much i have to pay for health insurance that tries to denie every claim that i put in and make me have to pay my lawyer $150 a pop just to send them a letter.






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