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 12-10-2004, 16:27 Post: 102067
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My wife is a musician, and yes we have a baby grand piano, except it is really not a baby as it is a Mason & Hamlin and is the heaviest piano I have ever seen, it is really, really built. I cannot even budge it at all if I try to lift from one leg. Supposedly, if you are not buying a Steinway a rebuilt Mason and Hamlin is supposed to be a good way to go if you want to spend alot of money but not Steinway prices. This was clearly not my decision, but certainly helps a guy when he wants to a spend lots of money on a tractor Wink yeah right.

My wife has always made it very clear to me if the Piano goes she goes, such is love! I have had our Monster piano moved by Piano movers 4 times in the last seven years it costs about 3-400 bucks a move and those are very well shopped prices.

I am not a musician and I have been fascinated with the quality of the electronic pianos and their compactness.

My son recently expressed an interest in Guitar so my wife went to a music store to buy him an acoustic guitar, purest that she is. The guitar salesman convinced us that an acoustic guitar was a serious misstake for a kid as it is harder to play, and vastly less fun. He sold my wife on it and my son is a happy camper, I am only happy when the amp is disconnected, acoustic would have been better for me :>(.

While the keyboard of a high quality electric Piano is basically the same as an acoustic alot of the other features on it should increase the fun factor significantly, making it a great place to start for a young player.






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 12-10-2004, 17:10 Post: 102068
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When i was a little girl, my dad bought me a piano, and after a while, it became an eyesore in our living room, and the only other place to really put it was in the basement. Long story short, if you get a REAL piano, don't try to take it apart...unless you really know what you're doing, or it will snap in half and just about kill you

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 12-10-2004, 18:25 Post: 102070
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 Any Piano Players out there

I moved many pianos during 4 summers during college (many years ago). Up stairs, around corners, off porches,etc. I was not the best at it - being bowlegged my legs would strain out under the weight and shake.

I appreciated the true sound my mother and sisters got out of the the old upright piano. But I would lean toward electric myself to save the pain of moving it and to get the latest sound technology.

(Concrete lined file cabinets in banks and slate pool tables can also give a moving man some grief.)






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 12-10-2004, 19:00 Post: 102073
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I suppose electric does make the most sense. Plus if we get one I can get a nice amplifier at the same time and start playing my solid body six string Ibenez again. Right now it's sitting in the corner behind me looking lonely. Smile
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 12-12-2004, 14:35 Post: 102125
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By golly, I think you have an answer.

The electric has got to sound better than the wind ripping my roof off today. Oh well, that's life on a hill...






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 12-12-2004, 17:00 Post: 102137
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Iowafun; We live on a hill too, nice breeze and not too many bugs in the summer, but I just checked our roof too and so far nothing missing. I just got back from the farm checking on sliding doors, a couple were banging pretty good but I think I've got them secure, I'll know for sure in the morning. The roof on the house at the farm needs replacing, the local lumberyard is real high on this sheet steel roofing for homes. I really like the looks of it and the 50 yr. warranty (that would make me 113) sounds great. Has anyone used it and have any comments pro or con. Frank.






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 12-13-2004, 12:26 Post: 102174
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Sheet steel roofing. Sounds like great stuff if based on life expectancy. Oe of the big things to look into is transfer of sound. I took classes in a steel-roofed building in Des Moines. They had basic insulation for heat. The main problem was you couldn't hear anything when it rained or hailed. The instructors would put on the microphones and crank up the volume. There were times when that didn't even work.

My stepdad and his buddies installed a steel roof on their hunting cabin. Snow slides right off and so do the Turkeys. First night after they installed it they heard the "thunk" and "screech" of Turkeys trying to stand on the roof only to slide off.

50 years would be great life for a roof. I just worry about the noise.

My main problem is a shallow roof pitch and the previous owner/builder used the cheapest shingles on the market. I have no trees big enough yet to provide protection from the west/southwest winds. I won't have trees big enough for at least another 10-15 years. Oh well.

Hardwood, where in Iowa are you out of?






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 12-13-2004, 13:11 Post: 102178
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I've played most of my life, and have owned both electric and acoustic instruments of various types. I would take the purist position and say that there is no substitute for a vibrating string. Although the entertainment value of lots of electronic bells and whistles attracts the attention of the young student, the rudiments that make for good musicianship are not necessarily served that way.

A Yamaha upright is a great sounding instrument, with a good feel. If the intention was to foster an *interested* piano student, that (or something equivalent) would be the way to go. I would love to have a Yamaha Grand myself, but my climate forbids such foolishness.

I am also a fanatic about tuning, so I learned how to tune pianos. With the electronic tuners available, and a book from the library, one can keep a decent piano in good shape for a long time.

If practicality requires the electric route, I would recommend against the "furniture" style of units with built in speakers. Go for a professional quality keyboard (I like the Kurzweil sound) and then get the best sounding speakers you can afford. They will make all the difference. Don't worry about different sounds, concentrate on a piano sound you want hear for a long time, one with lots of dynamics. You can always get a little external synthesizer box with a zillion sounds later, for not much $$$. (Plugs into the midi port.)

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 12-13-2004, 17:54 Post: 102187
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Iowafun; You're right I had'nt thought about the noise of rain on a steel roof. I think they just install it over the existing aspalt shingles with 1X4 nailers spaced every 2 ft. horozantly, somehow with no visible fasteners. Maybe the sound is softened by the old roof under it. The house is nearly a century old with 12/12 roof pitch. We live in northern Linn county near I380. Frank.






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 12-13-2004, 18:10 Post: 102188
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Frank
Are you talking about a screwed down metal roof or the standing seam? I assume being an old farm house your 12/12
roof is living space upstairs. If you have a decent amount
of insulation I would not worry about the noise. The best sound is the sound of ice/snow sliding off. You may have
to take that into consideration as to where you park your truck. IMHO the standing seam roof is the only way to go.
I'm having one installed in a week or so on my current project,28x36 garage with a 12/12 roof.
I am having the same crew do the facia boards as well while they are right there.






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