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 12-13-2004, 18:39 Post: 102190
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Grinder; Yes the steel is the standing rib type, not common barn steel. The upstais has living space with the slanted ceilings and the center flat part of the ceilings being about 7 ft. wide. That was a pretty common configuration of the turn of the century "T" shaped farmhouse here in the midwest. I see more and more of this type steel roof on new homes lately, and most of them have a roof pitch steeper than 4/12. The lumberyard manager was also showing me a new steel roof that looks from the road like a shake type shingle, but I think the sheets are installed horozantaly. That reminded me too much of that blankety blank old rolled steel roofing I've helped try to lay years ago, it never leaked a drop long as it did'nt rain. Thanks for your intrest. Frank.






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 12-14-2004, 04:29 Post: 102208
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Frank,
I have seen the shake type, they come in a 3- 4' panel. They look nice, but I'm not sure about walking on them after? The standing seam is a tried and true roof. The only
concern is the installer. Make sure they address you ventilation before hand. And check out some of their work
that is a couple of years old.
They do make some snow stops that work well over doorways
if your situation warrants it. I believe they must be installed during roof installation.
Just trying to share some mistakes.






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 12-14-2004, 12:36 Post: 102226
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Ok, that doesn't sound so bad if they are leaving most of the existing roof structure. I was worried they'd strip off the roof to the bare rafters. HEck, those old home were built pretty solid. More solid than mine house was built. I'm getting tired of playing roof repairer.

But then, the view is really nice from the top of the hill. I over look a valley north of Colfax in Jasper county.

I hadn't considered the effect of standing in the wrong spot when the snow cuts loose! I should though since my shop does the same thing. But I don't park next to it.






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 12-16-2004, 21:42 Post: 102392
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I play piano on our praise and worship team at church. At home I have an old upright and play a Yamaha P200 (electronic keyboard) at church. I enjoy both. There are many benefits to an electronic as mentioned earlier. If you go with the keyboard, it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to get one with weighted keys. I will guarantee that if you get one without, your daughter will not enjoy or excel at the same rate. You can get a used P200 for less than $1,000 if you take your time to look. Yamaha builts extremely durable and reliable products. They sound great (professional quality) and have built in speakers with headphone jack for those long practice sessions. Good luck to you and your daughter...music is truly a gift that lasts a lifetime.






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 12-16-2004, 22:26 Post: 102402
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Just to let you know...the Yamaha P200 has been replaced by the P250. If you go to kraftmusic.com you can find a set-up for home use that comes with a stand, bench, and a few other goodies for about $2000 which would give you a manufacturer's warranty along with the owner's manual. I believe they also have a 30 day satifaction guarentee as well. I was going to get one earlier this year but decided even after 4 years of hard use that my was still fine. This would still be cheaper than a stringed piano and the sound is amazing! The built in speakers give it the vibration similar to a regular and the hammer-graded weighted keys feel better than some grand pianos I have played. Your daughter would never out-grow it and would take just about as long to it wear out. I hope this helps.






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 12-17-2004, 04:34 Post: 102407
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DKL
Thanks for your imput.
I have been looking at the ypd 113, around 1000.00, which is
my limit at this point at age seven. Not knowing if she will stay with it.
It does have the weighted keys.
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 12-17-2004, 10:17 Post: 102427
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The YDP 113 would be a good starter digital piano. The sounds will be pretty good but if you want one that will have excellant sounds and features that your daughter will probably never outgrow (unless she eventually wants to step up to a hig-end model)consider a Yamaha P120. The sounds will absolutely astonish you and there are other features that she may really enjoy using as she gets better. It is $1199 a emusicgear.com and the YPD 113 is $995. I truly feel that the sound quality and other features (happy to explain if you would like) is worth the extra $200...I recommend that you visit a music store and compare these two models for yourself. Who knows, maybe you'll be so impressed that you'll want to learn too! Have a wonderful Christmas Season.






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 12-17-2004, 13:11 Post: 102435
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There are some great reviews for the Yamaha P120 at music123.com for you to look at if you would like hear about it from people who own one. There might be some reviews on the 113 as well but I have not checked. Good luck!






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 12-22-2004, 21:31 Post: 102762
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Grinder, just curious what you decided about the piano? I am sure that your daughter would be thrilled with either. Merry Christmas.






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 12-23-2004, 03:53 Post: 102770
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DKL..
I bought the the 113 yamaha.
Thank you for your interest and suggestions.
I thought about the 120, but felt like I was spending
at the top of my comfort zone already. It is more
than a christmas gift, I am trying to keep her interested in the lessons,and I hope the lesson of disipline that comes with it.
Not to mention, the pleasure her mother and I get of watching and listening
to her master a song.
Merry Christmas !






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