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 12-07-2005, 11:37 Post: 120592
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The one i bought was found new on ebay from a guy in maine. Imported from India. It weights about 850 lbs; all cast iron and has two 2' fly wheels to drive things.

The gen sets on that link seem awfull expensive.

I bought a 10KW gen head to be power by this engine. I should expect the engine to be able to out at least 5-6 KW's. If at some time I want i can always hook the 10kw gen head to the 30 hp deere...






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 12-07-2005, 11:56 Post: 120593
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I have a question and perhaps hope to learn something about this issue that I may not have been aware of. If I flip the main 200 amp breaker to my circuit breaker box that feeds the entire house; is it possible for electric current from my generator to still back feed the outside electric grid? If so, can you expand and explain this in some detail? Thanks.






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 12-07-2005, 11:56 Post: 120594
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Grinder, I sure hope that sliding switch doo-dad also has a means of breaking the ground / neutral bond back out to the grid also.

If not you could be putting a linesman, or several of them, at serious risk when you spark up that genset.

In Canada that is an illegal situation.

A setup like that cost a neighbour of mine thousands when the electrical authority cut the lines to his house and made him upgrade his entire house to todays standards before they would reconnect him.

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 12-07-2005, 12:00 Post: 120595
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Randy, the short answer....... HELL YES !!!

When you flip the main service breaker, you only disconnect two of the three wires between your house and the grid. The third leg, the neutral / ground leg is still hardwired into the grid.

If you energize that third leg, it and the earth itself can generate more than enough potential to fry somebody.

Search back through the threads here using the term "stray voltage" or just Google it.

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 12-07-2005, 12:14 Post: 120598
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What if I pull the entire electric meter off of the meter base mount? Am I completely broken off from the outside grid?






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 12-07-2005, 13:20 Post: 120607
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Nope, that won't do it either, only the two "line" conductors go THROUGH the meter, the third conductor, the neutral / ground goes AROUND the meter.

You need a special load transfer type switch gear which simultaneously opens all three conductors.

It used to be done by putting in a second ground rod, and having a special swithc which isolated all three conductors (line 1, line 2 & neutral / ground) leaving BOTH sides of the switch grounded to earth still.

I'm not sure of the legalities down there about that. I suppose if you ask your local electrical authority they should be able to let you know the best way to do it.

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 12-07-2005, 13:25 Post: 120608
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Thanks Murf! I wasn't aware of that. Guess I need to do a little more research on this. It would be interesting to discuss situations or scenario's in which electric power might be back fed from a generator to the main grid. If nothing else, it would make us all aware of things to look for and not to do.






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 12-07-2005, 13:34 Post: 120609
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 Generator set up ideas wanted

As always, this is just a great forum for learning things. Great thread; I have learned heaps just being a voyeur in this. I have planned for a generator in the future, but now I know much more about what to do and what not to do when it does happen. Thanks!






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 12-07-2005, 13:49 Post: 120611
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The internal wiring of the generator determines the type of transfer switch needed.
1) Generator with neutral not bonded to ground (usually frame of the generator) = 2 pole transfer switch - hot lines are switched but neutral is to remain solidly connected with utility (unswitched).
2) Generator with neutral bonded to ground (usually frame of the generator) = 3 pole transfer switch - hot lines and neutral are switched in transfer switch.






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 12-07-2005, 14:00 Post: 120612
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