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A very good question Harvey....
Best the Government has figured so far is that there is DEFINITELY an inverse relationship involved.
It seems that when the temperature or the voltage goes down, the population goes up, there IS however about a nine month delay in the process... they estimate the power failure last fall alone will result in about 15,000 new Metric people.
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Best of luck.
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harvey i also bought a tiger power from dyna tech. same situation. i ordered a 12kw and ended up with a 15kw at the same price. nice people. i run it with my jd4410 about 30hp at the pto. only used it twice but is great.they say you need 2hp for each kw to be safe. mine also does not grunt when the heavest load kicks in [central ac compressor]. you do have to hook up to the tractor but overall a lot cheaper than a large enough self contained unit to run the whole house.regards BUD
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So far I've never "HAD" to use it. But I do get it out a couple of times a year and run my welder with it when I have some serious rod to burn.
It is a good exercise for the gen and keeps all the do-dads tickled and excited in the thing.
The big rods and high amps will make the tractor grunt when the arc is struck and it smooths right out. I've watched the voltage meters with boy striking an arc and they do not even quiver.
ILIKE IT! IF I never have to use it it will be the best money spent.
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I finally got my transfer switch installed and an opprotunity to test my generator. It started the deep well pump without a hitch and it looks like it could run the whole house without problems.
It is a good feeling to have it available.
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Hi Bud, I was wondering what is the cost of your generator? I've been pondering the thought of getting one for myself. I own a JD4200 with about 22hp at the pto. I would like to puchase one but I don't know what direction to go in. I run alot of pto equipment with the tractor and I know I have the power to run one. Any help would be appreciated. JD
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I'm not Bud but I'll try your answer. The archives are full of info and pricing.
Your tractor will run a 10K gen and not overpower it. You can run a larger generator but you will only get about 10K because of your HP.
I opted for a larger gen than my tractor is rated for because the difference in money is not much and I may get a larger small tractor someday, or I could put my old M on it if I had to for a larger welding unit.
I'm limited by HP and not gen me thinks gen should last longer not build as much heat...
Cost of the 20K was around $1900
Harvey
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One problem i see is your tractor is tied up if you need it for something else at the same time
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Several safety points from a utility engineer on generators.
A properly installed transfer switch is a must on your service entrance. The transfer switch is a double throw switch whose common point is the house distribution panel. In the normal position the power company provides electric to your distribution panel. In the alternate position the generator provides the electric to your house panel.
Utility lineman have been killed from improper generator connections. If the power company source is not isolated from the generator you will back feed voltage to the service transformer. The transformer will step the 120/240 VAC from the generator up to a primary voltage, which is typically, 7200vac. This can be much higher depending on your utility. This voltage can kill. Additionally, if the utility company re-energizes the service with your generator connected an over-voltage occurs which can cause serious damage to your equipment.
Generators are excellent tools when used properly and by knowledgeable people. If you don't know what you are doing get someone who does. Because, someone's life maybe at risk. Dave
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In our area the electrical authority have a VERY dim view (no pun intended) of improperly wired generators.
A neighbour up the road from me discovered this the hard way last winter, during a storm a car took out a pole and brought down lines which caused an outage affecting most of this half of the township.
He thought nothing of it and sparked up the generator. A few minutes later a line crew came down the road checking the lines, when they got to his place a guy went up in the boom and used a special cutter to drop the leads coming from the pole to his house, then just drove away.
When he called the office they told him the line crew had discovered that his house was improperly wired and he was back-feeding the grid. They told him that he needed to hire an electrician and fix the problem, then call and they would have to do an inspection before they could re-connect him to the grid.
Unfortunately for him, the re-inspection required his entire house to meet TODAYS standards.
His entire house had been wired without grounded receptacles and the panel was only 60 amp, so it had to be upgraded to 100 amp minimum.
He was grumbling to me that it cost him thousands, I told him he was lucky, it could have cost someone their LIFE.
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Murf, we like to be advised when homeowners have generators so we can be on the lookout for potential problems. Fortunately, no one at our utility has been injured due to improper generator connections.
A few years ago in the electric utility industry the buzz word was "distributive generation". This is were a industry or commercial establishment has an agreement with the utility company to use their emergency generators for load shedding. The utility will allow the power from the generator to back feed into its system, thereby reducing the utility's demand. In turn the utility will exercise and maintain the customer's generator.
We considered this but didn't purse due to the low cost of electric in our part of the country, approximately $0.05/KWH, and the adverse effects it would have on our contract with our transmission supplier.
Every winter we will issue a public notice about the proper way to connect a generator, trying to educate the public. However, there are those out there to don't listen or think they know more than they do.
Take care, Dave
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