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 01-03-2004, 09:25 Post: 72948
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Information resource link grinder! Lots of good info.






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 01-03-2004, 09:42 Post: 72949
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Grinder..... I think you need to put this web address on the general board as a heading called MUST READ.

There is a whole bunch of quality info here about general tractor operation besides the generator info.

Great find!!!






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 01-03-2004, 09:52 Post: 72950
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Grinder.... on the subject of the 7500 with a genset, if you can't find one small enough for your under 20 pto hp tractor, Deere has one designed for their X series 20-24 hp lawn tractors.

I can shoot you the relevant pages from the OM showing gen-output with various engines.

According to Deere it makes more kw's with a 24 horse diesel than it does with a 25 horse gas engine.






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 01-03-2004, 10:03 Post: 72952
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Please do. Are these ratings for pto hp or engine hp.
What size would anyone recommend for a 3 bdr. 2 bath.
Lights,oil hwbb furnace, drilled well etc. Very seldom
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 01-03-2004, 13:24 Post: 72960
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Grinder that is a awesome batch of info. I particulary liked the part about not tructing the tractor tach. I had already discovered this. My Gen has a voltage and frez meter built in. I used those.

Essentially I think the most imortant thing was not to overload the tractor hp or torque.

I think if you go this route, a test run with someone monitoring your voltage and freq as you add in your essential stuff to run.

There are sheets to add up watts you need to run and how to size your generator.

I oversized my gen because I wanted to have more than enough generator. I just happened to get a bonus. So in my application the tractor hp is the critical factor. I have enough tractor for about 17kw and if I did all of my watt adding right it should be 9kw more than I need, with all things on and starting the water pump.

I have a very good safety net. I would not be concerned about some voltage drops the power company routinely browns out many customers. My critical voltage stuff is all on dedicated power supplies so no problem there.

I'll look up the tiger power link and post this if you are interested.






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 01-03-2004, 13:29 Post: 72961
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I really need to epmhasise that you do not have to size your generator to the tractor hp. You can get a 20kw generator and only have a 20hp tractor. It just means you have to limit your usage to the hp you have or about 10kw in this case. But that leaves no room for surges.

If you only need 6 kw to run your house you have a very comfortable margin of safety.






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 01-03-2004, 15:09 Post: 72967
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Here's the link for where my pto gen came from. There is lots of info there also.






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 01-04-2004, 06:45 Post: 73014
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With an oversized generator, you do have to be very sure of the loads. People do forget to turn things off or somebody else can turn something on unexpectedly. Brown-outs can overheat electric motors without popping a breaker.

A trick for people who don't have freq meters is to compare the times between an AC clock with a sweep second hand and a battery clock. My VOM has a freq meter section so that would be my alternative. Motors do run hotter at low frequencies and it's good to make sure the frequency is right.

Harvey's case is about the only reason I can see to run a generator that can demand appreciably more than the tractor's HP--and I'd take his deal most any day. Usually bigger generators cost more and the capacity can't really be used. They also put a bit more wear and tear on the pto drive. However, an advantage would be that the generator's continuous rating may be above the tractor's HP. High loads could be run continuously without heating the generator as long as the engine wasn't lugging. Don't know why generators don't have thermo switches but maybe high end ones do.






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 01-05-2004, 10:52 Post: 73111
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Voltage, current and the related horsepower is the same in Metric or Imperial measure (he says with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek).

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 01-05-2004, 17:18 Post: 73155
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Murf you'll gonna make me wet myself... I get to snickering about metric. When we run up in Ontario, all we see is metric numbers...

HOW DOES THAT CONVERT FOR POPULATION??????

Harvey smilin ear2ear...






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