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 07-13-2012, 12:53 Post: 184244
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Last month my wife was doing the dishes when she noticed that no hot water was coming out of the faucet. I went down to our finished basement to the utility room to find at least 100 gallons of water on the floor in just minutes.

I had never had a Oil fired hot water heater fail, so the magnitude of the leak was much more than I imagined. Not really a leak but full burst at 7 gallons a minute the capacity of my well.

According to the plumbers this the typical end game for Oil Hot water heaters. And they said they usually go in the middle of the night!

Was thinking I should put in a sump hole next to the new one and either make masonry dam around it or cut a channel in the floor.

Any other ideas?

My other nightmare.....I have my Oil Tanks in basement in the same area. Could the sump for the water heater also handle an oil leak or could it cause a fire? It there a special way to handle both?






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 07-14-2012, 11:29 Post: 184258
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I saw a valve that you can install that has a water sensor that is placed on the floor, it comes with a simple rubber dam that you loop around the tank in a two foot circle. If the sensor indicates water it closes the cold water valve and turns off the electricity to the burner. Wonder if it keeps working for the 8 to ten year life of tank?






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 07-14-2012, 12:08 Post: 184260
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I considered that and contacted the heating/plumbing contractors. It seems in my area we have acidic well water that requires a calcium based neutralizer system. They told me that the calcium, iron and other minerals when combined with heat in the small capillaries of an instant on tankless system would be short lived as the heating core would rapidly calcify under the heat applied to it.






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 07-17-2012, 21:30 Post: 184310
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Ok. But it would seem to me to be just as destructive to any water heating method. So is this calcium based neutralizer system too expensive, or is there some other reason you've never installed one?........



We had to install the acid neutralizer system to be able to get the CO to move in 15 years ago (would cost $1500 today). The system is comprised of a whole house filter to remove as much iron and other minerals before the water goes to the acid neutralizer tank which takes calcite and or magnesium oxide. The system has to be serviced every 8 to 10 months.

Failure to maintain the PH results in pin hole corrosion to the the copper pipes in the house. The cast iron pipes on my well only lasted a little over 3 years before they were full of holes. Eventually replaced with PVC that could be hung for 450 foot well depth.

The calcite leaves calcium deposits on faucet aerators, shower tile grout etc.. The deposits are higher under heat like on the hot water tap.

So far I have had pin holes in the flex copper tubes that had to be replaced with thicker walled straight pipe or stainless steel for the ice maker.

It's a real pain...

A tank system is supposed to be better for my circumstances because the tank is a large capacious area that has two replaceable anode rods that are made of magnesium that are sacrificed to take the crap out of the tank. They need to be replaced every one to 2 years.

Aside from the flood risk that I just got taste of 15 years was good, now I just need to protect against the tank failure event down the road.









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 07-19-2012, 19:40 Post: 184355
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I was pretty good about flushing the tank during the 15 years I had mine as well. The old tank had a single anode rod but the unit was built in such a thoughtless way that it could not be removed unless you uninstalled and disassembled the unit. So I never changed the anode rod.

On that water sensor valve have you ever tested it bu pouring some water in the tray?

Is the sensor also 30 years old? Who is the manufacturer?






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