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Rap music is not a generational issue. Rap music is shit from The Pit.
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AMEN! AMEN!
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Why in the world would any SANE PERSON want to listen to, or encourage lyrics that glorify death, rape, prostitution, murder of cops and presidents, drugs, gangs, mindless thuggery, oral/anal sex, mayhem, butchery and homicide?
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I think the key words here are "Sane Person"
I have been to several low budget weddings. And to tell the truth, they are generally (there is 'one' wedding that was pathetic) far more enjoyable than the big budget ones. I''m just more 'comfortable' at these informal ones.
They generally get everyone involved (freinds, family, church, etc.) in helping out, which right off the bat takes a lot of pressure of whatever poor person is usually responsible for everything.
One of the most memorable I ever went to, was a small wedding (maybe 70 people) in a park under a huge oak tree. They brought one of those trellis archways like you buy at home depot for a few bucks, and some stakes driven into the ground with some frilly fabric draped between them as a barrior. Their were no chairs so everyone stood. The pastor gave a reasonably short but great sermon/wedding ceremony. Music at the event was a guy from their church on guitar and a girl standing next to him singing.
Reception followed a few miles away at someones home, and it was a pot luck affair. Persoanlly I love pot lucks. Food was much better than those tiny boiled chicken things you usually get at fancy weddings.
There was some time between the wedding to allow everyone to change into casual clothes if desired (I desired).
The cake was home made (but still very nice). Music at the reception was the same couple who performed at the wedding. They were paid with donations at the reception desk (a dressed up coffee can next to the guest register).
I think their only expenses were the tux rentals, the gown (modest but nice), the trellis, the pastor, some frilly stuff, flowers, and materials to make dresses for the bridesmaids (sewing was doen by a volunteer).
Oh, they also rented a horse and carriage to take them from the park to the reception (that was a really nice touch)
I bet this wedding was only about a thousand dollars, and everyone had a great time. It was very nice.
The bride and grooms parents came together and put up $35k to be used as a down payment onn a house, and the couple saved up theiir own money in advance for a modest honeymoon.
It has been about nine years now, and they have two kids, a nice house (their 'only' debt) in a great neighborhood, and are very happilly married.
Unless you are rich, I'm of the mind that spending all that money on a wedding which only lasts a few hours is plain foolish, especially when the money can be used towards the couples future.
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The wife and I paid for our own wedding. We had an amount set aside just for that event. So we kept it reasonable and found a place that was very affordable. I think the meal came in around $10-12 a person. We did the whole shebang for around $7500 and had a great time. Actually, I think we did it for less than that and that included the honeymoon (we drove to Duluth).
The most fun wedding I ever attended was a buddy of mine. Small country church followed by a dinner and dance held in his father-in-law's barn. They had cleaned it out, added some lights and a DJ. Great time had by all and very affordable.
I attended an expensive wedding a couple of years ago and it wasn't as much fun. The bride got mad at the alcoholics, etc.
Keep the money down on a wedding as you can still have a great time. Put the rest of the money towards the important stuff like house, college, tractors, ATV's, hunting gear, etc.
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I always have hearing problems at weddings, Christmas parties, etc. with a band or DJ. My ears hurt for several days. Earplugs are the answer.
I hate rap music. I celebrated when my daughter just told me she now likes C & W. Bought her a new 04 Explorer this summer just to get rid of that speaker box in the back of her car. It only cost me $26,000.00 to get rid of the rap and it was worth it!!
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Yooperpete, I think your investment was well worth it! I don't understand rap music. I grew up just it was coming on scene. So people only 3-5 years younger than me have very different tastes in noise to listen to. It's great to live out in the country since I don't have any neighborhood hoodlums listening to rap at 1 am at full volume.
Never did understand the stuff. Can't understand what they are saying and the music has no rythm or style. It's just noise. I hope my kid (due in less than 4 months) doesn't get into that stuff.
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My wedding set me back 10K but I figured the honey moon in there. My mother in law showed up stiff starting problems withing 15 minutes of me being her son-in-law, Don't really remember much except I was glad it was over and I got away from my mother-in-law!
My wife and I hit 12 years in September. 9/11 as a matter of fact, and to this day we wish we didn't blow the $$$ on a reception everyone had a great time at except us. The 10 large would have helped me add the 3rd bay on my garage and a room over it when I built my house back in 1994! Hmmmmm a 5 hour reception with my drunk mother in law or a 3rd bay and a bonus room- take a guess.
As far as Rap goes,,,I'm too much a gentleman to really tell you what I think of snoopy dogshit and puff dick head. Hopefully they will all ganster rap themselves to hell. What kills me is the little preppy kid pulling up in his dad's bmw with it cranking.
I live in the hills out here in CT, as much of a "hills" as you can get out here. My buddy we nick named "dr evil" is a techno wonder. he's working on a thing that will destroy all electronics on one of those "boom box cars" driving down the rural road at midnight just passing through. This guy is a whack job and hates rap more than Mr Rankin! His plan is to disable the car and then jump out of the scrub in his camo and scare the cRAP out of them!
I'm 37 and never listend to RAP, the word is too close to CRAP to get my interest.
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Chonestguy, thanks to my wife my 17 year old son doesn't have subwoofers in his car. He does listen to rap in his car but I don't have to listen to the "thump thump" when he comes into the neighborhood. I am the weak one when it comes to telling kids they can't have what they want - at least when they have worked for the money. He wanted the sub woofers badly, I was ready to cave in - but my wife got in his face and that was the end of that. I must admit that she has been right at least 50 percent of the time.
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Hey, can't blame him for wanting the subs...every kid needs them. I am definitly guilty of having the radio up a little too loud in the 70 1/2 Rally Sport cruising the streets but it wasn't rap it was "regular music" I used to play stuff in the house, my parents didn't necessarily like it but it was something the could tolerate. Rap make me sick to my stomach. When you see these scumbags on TV with the gold and diamonds and know our kids are the ones making them rich it makes me sick.
Bring him to an Alan Jackson concert or better yet Randy Travis where they can hear the words.
My kids are 3 and 5. I'm trying to bring them up well and don't intend to "program" their minds EXCEPT when it comes to this crap. My kids hate it too which is great. Once the realize there are bad words in there and they figure out what a bad word is they will then need to find the mystery and I'll be jumping off a bridge. It's one thing I won't allow in my house. My 5 year old son will respect women and not call anything but a weed puller a "hoe", my dughter will kick the crap out of any guy that thinks he can call her a "hoe" and so will her dad!
Any music associated wit killing a policeman is plain sick. MTV did a lot to ruin the world. It's blocked on my directv, I don't even want to see it.
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Chonestguy, I admire your conviction. It is very tough raising kids nowadays. 50% of the parents let their kids do whatever they want and their kids ask your kids why your kids can't always do what they want. Then your kids go to their teachers to get their view of the world and what they think kids should be allowed to do. Parents are no longer supposed to be in control. You have to be very tough and stick to your guns. It is a very long haul.
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My kids are 3 and 5. I'm trying to bring them up well and don't intend to "program" their minds EXCEPT when it comes to this crap. My kids hate it too which is great. Once the realize there are bad words in there and they figure out what a bad word is they will then need to find the mystery and I'll be jumping off a bridge. It's one thing I won't allow in my house. My 5 year old son will respect women and not call anything but a weed puller a "hoe", my dughter will kick the crap out of any guy that thinks he can call her a "hoe" and so will her dad!
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I was going to say that if you "don't" program your kids, there are plenty out there who will be too happy to do it for you, and you won't be happy with the job they do.
But then I see farther on in the same paragraph, that you already are programming them to reject bad behavior. So never mind.
It's a tough world to raise kids in these days. Many in the government and school system think that they belong to them, not the parents. It's that whole it takes a village crap.
I remember when MTV was first taking off, a lot of parents were complaining about the material on the station. The media asked the founder (cant remember his name) his thoughts about that. I'll never forget his response. He said "Who in the f**k do they think they are. Those are 'my' kids. I 'own' them, and I'll show them whatever the f**k I want".
Not a whole lot makes my jaw drop anymore, but that did. Pretty insightful, if you ask me. And that was before cRAP really came on the scene the way it is now. Definitely before MTV was pushing it big.
"cRAP". I like that. Would make a great spoof name for a RAP parody act.
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Speaking of cRAP, did you see the news of one of the rap label's ehad guy getting arrested for running a drug ring? Guess the jewelry cut off the circulation to the brain. At least the gold teeth with get knocked out easily making him very popular with the men in prison.
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