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 01-12-2006, 21:27 Post: 122661
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Steve; Lets not add in the cats. We raised one that showed up on the door step as a ball of fur, a yellow tabby. We have another now. I have had a black one that has taken to the barn. She hisses at me when I enter the shop, but keeps the rats down. We saw another the other day in the barn






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 01-13-2006, 08:10 Post: 122670
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Some of you are too young to remember when soft drinks (Coke and Pepsi) were sold in glass bottles that required a deposit. The deposit had a way of getting those bottles out of the ditches and back to the bottler.
Some states have such a charge now.






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 01-13-2006, 09:24 Post: 122675
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Cans and bottles in B.C. still have a large deposit. You can walk miles to pick up a couple of cans.
A friend of mine made reverse vending machines that read the code on plastic bottles and then shred them. They also crushed the cans. The bottling companies fought tooth and nail not to have a deposit and we live with the results.
I still think the trash turn happened in B.C. when they sent the school children out in road gangs to pick it up. The roads are public and this enforces that they own them too and need to keep them clean. This created a generation that was concerned about tossing any trash.






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 01-13-2006, 10:52 Post: 122687
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I can remember picking up bottles to get some money. I think it would be a good idea to put a 25cent deposit on all plastic containers. I pick up pepsi liter bottles on our private road all the time. I hope it's not the people that live here droping them.
I wonder if we could get all dogs and cats tattoed or chip implanted and then when someone buys them they are registered to them. If someone finds them running loose and turns them in to a collection agency then the finder and agency could share in a fine against the derelict owner. Sounds like a good idea to me. They use implanted chips now so critters don't even need a collar for ID. With the chip you could have a history of the dog/cat and the owners. Plus when the critter destroys property or bites someone they can't say, "it isn't my dog".






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 01-13-2006, 12:29 Post: 122693
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In Iowa, the deposit is $.05. It helped keep the parking lot at the factory clean as there were enough empty beer bottles and cans left in the lot from lunch to make it worth someone's time to pick them all up. It wasn't the workers, but someone who drove by every day afetr lunch and picked them up.






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 01-13-2006, 12:39 Post: 122696
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Personally I think a good start to making a strong and effective deterent to dumping and littering is to change the laws and add a zero & move the decimal point on place to the right for all fines. I think that might get the attention of some folks.






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 01-13-2006, 18:54 Post: 122716
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We had stiff fines in MA and bottle returns.
I had a house on a small lake with 120 homes and a cottage on a lake with 300 cottages in Ontario. We had 2 acres each and similar water frontage. I collected a garbage bag of trash every month in MA and a couple of pieces in the spring in Ontario. I think it is training of the children.






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 01-14-2006, 06:44 Post: 122733
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When I was in the service in CT. I spent about 1.5 months working in the barracks . They had a 5 cent returned on cans and bottles ,on monday after superbowl weekend we had to remove all the trash that the guys had left in the halls for us. Being one of the only guys with a pick up I bet I made $50.00 halling cases of emptys to the redemption center. Not bad extra cash 20 years ago . I think I made some of my own emptys with the money.






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 01-14-2006, 11:12 Post: 122744
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I know what Peters is talking about. In Minnesota, I lived next to a school. My front yard always had Cheetos bags, chips bags, candy bar wrappers, etc. It's about training the kids.






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 01-15-2006, 20:18 Post: 122817
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I agree all of this has to do with both the way people are raised and how they value or respect others.

Little respect of onesleves in some circles much less others.

The idea of chip in dogs and such, problem would be how would you be sure the people had chips in their animals?

Hey, when a judge gives a confessed rapist 60 days what can we expect. I say tie both the rapier and judge to trash and bury all. (Some say burning is best way to get ride of TRASH.)






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