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For me it's JOB SECURITY! The public screams about the trucks. When you look at the road permits, fuel, registrations, special permits, hazmat fees, and all the taxes I think the industry more than pays its fair share.
I agree some roads are better left to bicycles. But how much do they pay? Now who's gonna pay to fix them?
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Yup Harvey and that's why our roads are so torn up.
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Nope, not even close Jeff.
They're torn up because successive Governments have taken the money collected for roads and squandered it on everything but that!
For example, in Michigan the State Road Tax is $0.19 / gallon for gas, and $0.15 / gallon on diesel. That brought in just shy of a BILLION ($897 million) dollars in 2006. On top of that, the Feds hand over 92% of the Federal money collected in the state. The Fed tax rate is almost the same, so another $900 million there.
On top of that, they levy a 6% sales tax. Considering the above two the sales tax should then be around $300 million.
Even if we say that the plate and transfer fees go somewhere else, the state collected about $2.1 BILLION dollars.
Problem is in that same year, they only spent about half that much on the roads.
I suspect if they spent the money being collected for roads, ON THE ROADS, they wouldn't be so bad.
Best of luck.
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The do-gooders here spend most of the road taxes on BS projects like light rail, bike paths and parks while the roads go unmaintained. They are quite clear - they want to make drivers suffer to get them out of their cars. Of course their solutions offer nothing for the majority who work, pay road taxes and commute to areas in the 99.9% of the region that have no transit service.
But they do feel good about themselves, I guess that's the important thing.
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For comparison a full bulk animal feed truck with 8 compartments (the ones that have the auger arm along the top side) weights ±48,000 lb (net feed weight). The semi truck will weigh ±32,000 for a total gross of ±80,000 lb.
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Road taxes are amongst the tip of the iceberg of tax ripoffs around here.
Of the property taxes I pay here on my home 25% of that goes to the Board of Education, in my case that amounts to about $4,000/year.
According to published figures, in Ontario anyone who gets paid from tax dollars and makes over $100k/year has their names & salaries published annually, the director of education made $249,126.61, plus $4,602.01 in benefits last year. That does not include paid travel or other 'benefits' not paid directly, such as a car or other 'perks'.
I also pay another ~$6,000 a year to other boards of education where I also own land (excluding the farm). In those cases, since the lands are not a 'principle residence' I could not even enroll a child in those schools if I wanted to.
$10,000/year, this isn't bad for a guy with no children, huh? 
Best of luck.
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Murf what I was getting to was due to the extremely heavy trucks--foreign or domestic--they are tearing up the roads. It's been within the last 7 or so years that the State drastically increased the weight limits.
I live off a 5-lane highway (US-24) where the roads are sunken from truck traffic--think ruts. This road is nearly a hundred years old and over a foot thick just in concrete and asphalt--in some places even thicker. Where the trucks make their way to the landfill--from Canuckistan--the roadway is actually bermed up from making turns with all that weight.
Just yesterday another contractor and I were discussing this same issue and he mentioned one of his buddies was cited for being 18,000 lb. overweight! It's not uncommon to see gross weights placarded on cement trucks of 130,000--that particular truck is rated for 9-cubic yards. He's been pulled over so many times by the Weigh Master that the owner had "9 LEGAL Cubic Yards" painted on the cab to discourage such stops. These front-unloader trucks are the ones that run the big super-singles all around, all-wheel- drive, and 5-axles.
My pickup is considered "commercial" and as such the lowest "Elected Gross Weight" license plate I can get is a 24,000 lb. which costs $491 a year. And it's going up next year.
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Murf what I was getting to was due to the extremely heavy trucks--foreign or domestic--they are tearing up the roads.
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I think you missed my point though Jeff, plate fees, including the PRP remittances and fuel taxes paid by those very Cannuckistanian trucks are what created the $1 bilion/year surplus that they are NOT using to fix and maintain the roads. Instead they got used to using it for something else, now the roads are shot and there's no money to fix them.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, except now Peter is broke, and Paul is leaving because they can't afford to pay him anymore.
Best of luck.
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I'm not up on what the costs are to commercial vehicles crossing the bridge and using our roads, or vice versa.
Never really thought about it, nor has anyone I've spoken to about it like local authorities or other contractors. I guess the assumption was Canadian CV got to use our roads for free.
I'm all ears! And I'm sitting down. 
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PRP plates are just as the name implies "Pro Rated Plates", the fees are split up based on where the truck runs and divided out based on mileage.
In simple terms, if an Ontario PRP plated truck does 50% of it's mileage in Ontario, and 50% in Michigan, the license fees get split that way too.
Fuel taxes work the same way too, the days of big tanks and buying all your fuel in 'cheap' states are gone too. That's why the fuel tax stickers are required, to show that you are in compliance.
Best of luck.
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Robbing Peter to pay Paul, except now Peter is broke, and Paul is leaving because they can't afford to pay him anymore.
Hahaha Murf....so true!
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