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BLADDER PRESSURE TANKS
I got one for you guys. I will try to explain what happened and what it is doing now, maybe you can come up with a answer for me?
My dad passed on this year and he was my next door neighbor. We shared a well. The electric was run off his service. He has about a 80 gallon standard pressure tank and farther up in his system before it goes thru his house he also has around a 30 gallon Bladder type pressure tank only around 1 1/2 years old. My house has a 7 year old bladder type pressure tank in it. It is a 42 gallon (or so, cant rememeber exactly but it is close to that) Anyway I switched the electric, so I controll the power to the well pump and the pressure switch (Since the well is on my land I want to make sure I controll the electric to the pump, ya never lnow who will move into the next door hoose in the future) All went well except when I was installing the new pressure switch to a 40-60psi from a 30-50, my father-in-law wanted to help and insisted we use galv. pipe. At the time I was very buisy with everything else going on and did not want to slap him in the face so I agreed. Low and behold it still has a very small leak not even 1 gallon a week. Anyway since then I have noticed a big change in my water service. When taking a shower, about every 30 seconds or so the the water will get either hotter or colder then go back to the other temp. It is almost like it is when the well pump kicks in.
I noticed that the well pump will kick in very often like within 2-3 gallons of use or less. I just watched the pressure gauge a few min. ago. It turns on when it drops to 38psi (perfect) and pumps up to around 58-59 and shuts off. Imediately (and I mean right when it stops pumping ) it drops drastically to 48. (And I do mean the second the pump stops) All the time while pumping the gauge is bouncing up and down and never smooth. I got a bit pissed off and just bought a 82 gallon bladder pressure tank (thinking I could use a larger capacity anyway, it is not supposed to kick the pump on till 8-9 gallons are used) I am going to install it with plastic (pvc) pressure pipe tomarroo (like I wanted in the first place since it is legal here and it is the choice of many plumbers now). Why do you think this is happening? Could it be that minor leak is losing the pressure that quick? Could my bladder be busted in the 7 year old tank? Any suggestions will be helpfull for me to understand this
Thanks Tom
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Ann, Hardwood
Thanks for the input. With so much happening to my system at one time (all the changes) I was confused and had lost direction. The ruptured bladder was one of my concerns and I think you both are correct that is must be that. All the symptoms seem to lead to that so I will replace it this weekend. I am sure having a much larger tank will also help even more to lessen the times the pump needs to turn on. I will let ya all know how this turns out next week.
Thanks again
Tom
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The new tank in my house worked out fine.
I have anouther tank problem!
Give me your best suggestions, This is at my place up north.
At the cabin I have a bathroom sink, a kitchen sink and a shower. I have a 20 gallon pressure tank set up with a drain spicket that also doubles as a hose end outlet (run thru the window to wash the tractor) While washing the tractor last fall the water just stopped. About 4 min. later I had pressure again and plenty of water. After about 3-6 minutes it would run down to a trickle and stop again. I did not investigate this. Then last winter my son told me that, "the water just stopped while taking his shower" Of course he did not tell me this till after the weekend at the cabin.  . Well I just got back from the cabin and I have the tank and fittings in my truck! While using the water (actually flushing the toilet) The water ran out and stopped. I was prepaired this time. I pumped air into the tank, (up to 45 psi) Still, no water pressure (all the way down to zero on the pressure gauge attatched to the tank) Pressure was in the tank though?
The pump from the well was NOT kicking on either? So I am pissed and decide to go get a coffee at the gas station. I get back and there is pressure and water again. As soon as I run the water from the tank, there is NO pressure again? Pump is not kicking on? I rap on the sides of the tank and the steel tube holding the pressue switch ,,, still nothing>? About 20 min. later I come back in the house<,, Pressure again??? Run it out and again nothing. I unhooked the whole damm thing and took it home with me.
Where should I start? Do you think it could be the tank ? I was leaning towards maybe some calcium or iron build up in the pressure switch NOT allowing it to activate??? What do you all think? Should I replace everything and call it a game?
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Yes, the first post in this thread was from a long time ago. In that one,,, I had a bad bladder so I replaced the whole thing with a 82 (or 86) gallon new bladder tank. Been working fine ever since and the pump kicks on less frequently with the larger tank (that tank supply's two houses, although one of the houses has only one lady living in it. Thank you for all that help with that problem!
The new problem (I kept it in the same thread to not keep making new ones) Is on my well at my other house in Northern Wisconsin. My wife say's if I dont have a shower running for her when she gets there on Easter, that I WILL be putting her up in a hotel for those 5 days! (And I thought she grew up on a farm>>???) Anyway's I am holding out hope for the chunk idea in the pressure switch. I was thinking that may be the cause. Since I only had 6 hours till I had to leave and drive 312 miles home that day, I decided to pull the whole damm thing out and take it home with me!! . (Ill be dammed if I will put her up in a hotel just cause there is no water!!!) I will check the gauge and the pipe leading to it tonight.
Do you all think I should just go ahead and replace the tank also? A new replacement tank is only $89 right now on sale? The old tank is 5 years old and it is used infrequently,? ALSO I do have alot of seditment (or rust) in the water when I first get up to the cabin every year Thanks
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Harvey,,, I love you man!!! . My kind of thinking and I am still >Laughing Out Loud< at your comments about hotel prices.
I am at my other residence atleast (on average) once a month. My father-in-law is fit to be tied by me replacing the 4 year old tank (actually its closer to five than four). Its on sale right now for $under 85 bucks, I thought it was a no brainer? At closer look to the "points" of contacts I see a small amount of buildup where they are suppose to touch each other. Maybe if I was a bit "quicker" I would of checked this while it was still hooked up. Just a few swipes with some emery may of cleared up my problem,,, but then again, maybe not? I will never know now, but in the future I will check the contact points first! Tomarrow, I am putting together the new system. (I have all plastic pipes in the house) I learned along time ago that a house you own in an area of the country that gets down to minus 20 deg. (often in the winter) is much easier to fix broken pipes if they are plastic. My furnace has never when on the blink while I was away. (I keep it heated year round) But I know all it would take would be a power failure for a day or so and any water left in the pipes would make a mess. I dont drain the system when I leave (completely). I just run the water out of the lines and what ever is still hangin in there is what is there. I am back and forth so many times a winter that I feel replacing pipes once in ahile would be alot less work than trying to blow out the whole damm thing (sometimes) two to three times a month.
I have anouther question. In my local home I switched my pressure tank, On this tank I put in pvc coming out of it along with all its hook ups (gauge,shut off etc). I have had no problems with this. Does anyone see a problem with using pvc with the pressure tanks? (Dont worry about "code" I dont! Atleast not when it comes to something like this.
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