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2ndHandLion prompted this
Most of the suggestions here apply to folk who have some discretionary income at hand. There are a LOT of folk (none of whom are participants of this board) who have very little. They certainly dont have money for generators and guns let alone ammo, in the event of a Katrina or the like they have no way of getting out - they dont have transport outside of that which is pubically provided. What most of you are doing is putting yourselves in their shoes and assuming that they will have the resources you currently have - they do not. These folk live pay check to pay check, some with assistance from the state. When life is disrupted they have NO ability to cushion the blow. What is clear is that most people on this board have limited understanding about the conditions under which these people live.
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AnnBrush, I believe the folks on this board understand very well people who have little income, and are exchanging ideas about how members of this board, who do have income, would cope with a potential disaster.
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2ndHandLion prompted this
I'm not quite sure how this turned into a class debate, but people here have mentioned neighbor helping neighbor. I believe everyone here would help neighbors after they have taken care of their own families regardless of their social status.
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2ndHandLion prompted this
Ann, I will have to sharply but respectfully disagree with you. Either you did not read my post all the way through or did not understand the "jist" of my message.
I will say it again.......THERE IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS. I realize and understand as good or better than most that not everyone has the good fortune and blessings many on this board do with respect to income and posessions. That is why we should and must all do our best to help out our neighbors and others as best we can. When neighbors have a plan and stick together, the responsibilities and amount of "stuff" to keep on hand can be shared.
Some folks are just flat out beyond help. What seems to be clear to me is that you have likely have not had to deal with methamphetamine addicts or other criminals who have no concept of the value of each individual life and would as soon shoot you as sit down an eat breakfast. Once you have been shot at or lived through a survival situation, I have a SOLID feeling you will truly understand what I am saying and perhaps see this world's goings on in a different light.
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I whole heartedly believe that natural disaster are nature way of thinning the population, and for evolution. Stupid people do not head warnings = death. Smart people listen and do what is necessary to survive = live to procreate.
The dumb ones die as to not contaminate the rest of the population with more stupid people.
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Even the poorest of the poor do have the ability to store water in containers at hand. Pot/pans, cleaned out milk jugs, cleaned out 2 L pop bottles, etc. It is possible for them to do that. Yet, it doesn't happen.
It is different for those who are poor. But the people in line for gas in Florida on the news were in $50k SUV's. They weren't poor. They may have been living paycheck to paycheck, but they weren't poor. They had the means and the time to prepare. They didn't and now they are complaining. I have no sympathy.
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2ndHandLion prompted this
The following is sure to raise the ire of the bleeding hearts:
I watched the New Orleans coverage with utter amazement. Did you see how many of these "desperately poor" people wading out of the flood waters weighed 400+ pounds?
Seems to me that anyone eating 8000+ calories a day to maintain that sort of body mass could put a little something aside for a rainy day.
But then you would first have to get past the entitlement mindset that says it is someone else's problem to care for them.
Let the fur fly...........
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I think we are wasting our money fixing up anything below sea level in New Orleans. I also believe we should stop bailing out the people in Florida every time there is a hurricane. My Grandfather grew up on Cape Cod - he used to row out to the whaler clipper ships and sell magazines to the sailors. When we went to the Cape he would say "GD fools that build on the water - they don't have any idea what can happen". We can't be subsidizing stupidity with our hard earned tax dollars. And to recreate the whole situation so it can happen again next year?
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I've lived pay check to pay check. I've ate a lot of beans, rice and gravey at the end of the month. So I resent the comment I do not understand what it's like to be poor/broke. Well maybe I don't, but I got off my ass to do the best I can HONORABLY with out someone else paying for it.
I've never really considered myself poor, that is a welfarestate term anyway.
I've always payed my bills. I've never put my hand out, except in Alaska where the state gives away money.
It royally pisses me off when the Government bails out people in these sitituations so they can do it again. My frigging insurance rates are gonna raise again because of it.
I've accepeted and provided lots of volunteer help over the years and the steak(usually) meals and refreshments were provided. It would have been cheaper to hire it sometimes. But we worked hard ate good and shot lotsa bull.
ncrunch said it "we are subsidizing fools". But who is really the fool here?
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Harvey makes an interesting point. Who are the fools? One of the problems is to get elected, you have to promise money and call it entitlement. So you get the votes vs the guy who proposes you use your common sense. So who you gonna vote for? The guy that says go get a job or the guy that says vote for me and I'll make sure you keep getting the money you are entitled to.
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