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 08-16-2003, 08:57 Post: 61963
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Doc, check my pic's (#12)for Deere's answer to your emergency power needs.






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 08-16-2003, 09:21 Post: 61964
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What does Deere get for that PTO generator? looks like a nice unit any idea on sizes offered?

My only NEED for some sort of power is to run the well. Six horse go through alot of Perrier water in aday Smile

Actually I have solved the horse water problem as I mentioned before. I have a power inverter and can run a pump from the reservoir to a 55 gallon drum in the bed of my truck. Also have 18,000 gallons in the pool that is treated with Bacquacil(doesn't leave chlorine residue) thta could be used to wash clothes, items etc in a pinch.

Otherwise I can stay cool in the pool and have enough food for several days. No real concern in the event of a real bad emergency and looting here.... the Misses is a right good shot, pretty ornery too .Smile






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 08-16-2003, 09:54 Post: 61966
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They only have one model to the best of my knowledge.

The one pictured is designed for the X400/500 tractors with 24 horse gas engines. I don't see any reason why it won't work on a BX, 2210 or a 41xx.

I would have to do some digging on the price, but I think the list is $1600, and I think it is a 10KW output.

All of my water is 275 feet underground. Bad news in a power outage.






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 08-16-2003, 09:58 Post: 61967
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I was looking at PTO generator specs. yesterday at the Stateline Power web site and I noticed that the PTO generators they were selling required a PTO rpm of 515 rpm. Am I reading/understanding this correctly? If so what is a good rule of thumb or method to determine 515 rpm on the PTO? 2600 gives me 540 so using ration and portion calculations I come up with 2479.63 rpm. Round up to 2480 rpm. If indeed this is the case, why not just gear the generator to run a the standard 540 rpm. I put the link to the generator below so you can see what I am talking about.






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 08-16-2003, 11:53 Post: 61971
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Mark H, do you have one of those ? I dont know squat about them. My generac only has about 25 hours on it and I paid around $1300 for it. After this fiasco I am dead sold that Gas is NOT the fuel method to rely on in a panic. Too much demand. It is absolutely wild to see traffic backed up for miles to the gas pumps and 1 truck at the diesel.






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 08-16-2003, 14:09 Post: 61978
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No. I don't have one. It is on my wish list.

I am debating on whether to buy a PTO generator that will run my well pump or to get a water storage tank to tap for emergencies and a smaller generator to keep the refer and the woodstove fan running.

Like Ken, we get multiple power outages every year.






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 08-16-2003, 14:56 Post: 61980
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Where did you get the photo ? I can't find any details or specs on the Jd web site.






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 08-16-2003, 17:26 Post: 61982
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Under Deere.com click on Garden tractors........then X series......and accessorize...... and you should find it there. Click on the little diamonds after "10K PTO Generator"






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 08-16-2003, 20:17 Post: 61984
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I really like the price and power of the PTO generators, BUT I don't fancy the idea of using the tractor for 72+ hours at high idles speed if we have an extended outage. That's alot of wear on my baby Smile Not to mention tying up the tractor when I might need it to clear snow, downed trees etc. Also is my wife going to want to be out in the pouring ran and lightning, detaching my brushog and attaching the PTO generator, hooking up the wires and fueling my tractor every 5 hours if I am not home?

What if we are both not home, the sump pump and fridge will be out for as long as we are away.

I like the standby systems that run on LP or Gas. $2600 for 12 kw all complete, turn itself on and off. For those without gas I am sure diesel units are available but may be more $$$. Might even be able to retrofit the system to run on gas, it looks to be a standard Generac unit with a diff. carb setup.

P.S. When I went with my buddy to exchange his portable for the LP standby unit, they loked it up online and we discussed the generators at length. I ended up encouraging the owner and manager to order units for their own houses. My friend went to buy a torque wrench today and the owners wife said she can't wait to get hers and they are putting the GENERAC Standby units on their next sales flyer so they san sell more units. They didn't know anything of the units until I went in yesterday...should I get commission Wink yeah right






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 08-17-2003, 05:27 Post: 61997
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Chief: The gear drive does seem an odd choice. Who knows, maybe they started with the gear box case and then couldn't find a gear set with the exact ratio needed that would find in the case. I noticed that the unit does have a freq. meter so you could tell if the rpm is off. The main issue is where the engine is on it's power curve at 515 pto rpm.

Some people who use pto generators that lack freq. meters set the tractor rpm by comparing times from AC and battery clocks that have sweep second hands. The freq. doesn't have to be right on but a little high is better than low. Low freq. increases start up surges for AC motors. They'll burn out from very low frequencies but the generator main breakers might pop first unless its a very small fractional motor. For that reason having a generator that's large enough for a load to lug the engine isn't a good idea.

All this backup generator discussion hasn't contained comments about the generator hookup to house wiring. There's a bunch of discussion in the archives and a convenient code approved hookup can be a considerable expense. Before I installed my transfer panel I used a 100A combination panel and a bunch of receptacles on a piece of plywood.

The panel has 100' of 100A flex line and I used it in my sound buz days. I replaced most of the 20A 220V twist lock receptacles used for lights with standard 110V receptacles, wired in a stove receptacle and a few common ones found on construction sites. The panel is still useful for sites where there is no AC. Dragging the panel into the house and running extension cords where needed worked fine. People who intend to do something like backfeed a stove receptacle should understand the issues very well.






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