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 03-08-2011, 07:42 Post: 177255
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I have a 1 year old 620I that would fill the crank case in 30hrs. That is with a mix of driving but the bulk being driving about 1000yrds to the barn and shutting it off "which I thought a UTV was made for". I had an old 2X4 before that we only drove to the barn, because it had no suspension and could stand to drive through a rough field. That never had any problems "it was carburated". That's why it pisses me off so much when JD says all gas engines do this if you don't run them hard. I see a lot of ways to help this problem or maybe fix in here. I'm a mechanic myself and could tune on it or change things a bit to make it work better, but I did not go out and spend $12K to get a brand new suppossedly top of the line piece of equipment to have to work on it. It should be right from the start or they should standing behind it and making it right.






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 03-08-2011, 08:12 Post: 177257
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I put a temperature gauge on mine and let it sit around and run a lot in the winter. I always make sure it gets warmed up at least once every day.I also agree it is an expensive poor design and wasteful on gas.






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 03-08-2011, 08:30 Post: 177258
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My local dealer gave me an extended 2yr warranty on mine "because I spent $40K on a tractor". I took it back to them and they played with the fuel mixture. They leaned it way out to the point it almost wants to cut off when coming back down from reved up when cold. Seems to be doing pretty well for putting gas in the oil, but the one time I did work it hard pulling a big load it seemed to not have enough fuel and the check engine light came on. Figure I have about 20 month of warranty left on it and it can go away after that. I'm suprised there has not been a class action law suit on this. Hell I could rep out side it so cut and dry.






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 03-08-2011, 08:30 Post: 177259
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Does anyone know if the new 825s have this problem? I suppose that if the problem is my driving habits then it would reason that I would have the same problems. Maybe the new motor does not have this problem? ( oxy sensor ? ) I have looked and found some complaints about the 825 regarding the front end, but not gas in the oil... I bet that motor is not cheap to replace or work on. JD is probably the exclusive parts supplier! OUCH

BTW I would be very interested in the results if some 620/625 owners try the hotter spark plugs. If anyone tries it, please post me.

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 03-08-2011, 11:30 Post: 177261
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Hotter spark plugs was a suggestion I made to the dealer, but with mine still having 2 years of warranty the last thing I want to do is tweak anything that would give them and out if something went wrong. I would think that would help whith burning all the fuel, the only problem I could think of would be during hard use creating excessive heat in the combustion chamber. It a fine line.






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 03-08-2011, 12:10 Post: 177264
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I guess I have 2 questions related to this thread. Is it safe to say the HPX model does not have this issue? And anyone hearing about this problem in the EFI Kawasaki Mules?






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 03-08-2011, 14:01 Post: 177268
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Hotter spark plugs was a suggestion I made to the dealer, but with mine still having 2 years of warranty the last thing I want to do is tweak anything that would give them and out if something went wrong. I would think that would help whith burning all the fuel, the only problem I could think of would be during hard use creating excessive heat in the combustion chamber. It a fine line.



Well if it goes kaput with the new plugs, you could always put your old plugs back in before you call the dealer. Laughing out loud But seriously, if it is taking on that much gas you have to wonder how long it will keep running anyway. I blew out a crank seal on my TH like one or two days after warranty was up... I had talked to them about the problems too. They would not stand behind the product. Now I need a new machine ... trying hard not to go Deere






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 03-08-2011, 16:26 Post: 177275
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I guess I have 2 questions related to this thread. Is it safe to say the HPX model does not have this issue? And anyone hearing about this problem in the EFI Kawasaki Mules?



Don't know about the efi mule but apparently the carb ones do
http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/kawasaki-atv-mule/20357-mule-3010-gas-oil.html

I am now going to assume it is just a matter of how they are used and not a problem specific to JD






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 03-09-2011, 08:03 Post: 177284
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Knock on wood it's not doing bad since they leaned it out. I just keep checking the oil often. That new 50+hp gator looks realy nice but I do not know of anyone who has one. It's hard to stick with JD after all of this but I like the style of the gator kind of workplay design. I have friends with the mule "diesel though". They do good but they just seem like they are built for work only.






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 03-11-2011, 23:51 Post: 177352
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i wouldn t say the HPX dont have the problem with fuel in gas, but rather i have problems with my 2005 HPX not starting up when left for a while, but while warm its not bad. so i always keep the cardboard in the rad like the fellows mentions. 2000 hrs and im still struggling to keep it running smoothly. also dont burn the gas cleanly, pretty smelling, think deere got something out of adjustment.....think ill go orange






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