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 08-08-2006, 06:49 Post: 133084
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WW,

For the record, I'm not a veteran. The closest I've ever come to serving was enter my info for the selective service.

"Mental anguish" is difficult to measure and prove. It's also very subjective. I, for instance, experience mental anguish, whenever I hear a liberal open his or her mouth.

Having said that, you make a convincing argument as to the need for protecting the flag. Personally, I think we have greater priorities and I listed them earlier.

On indecency, one more time: naked bush-men in africa don't exploit their bodies, porn industry does. That's what makes it wrong. How you treat God's creation, especially your very body, is a reflection of your respect for God. When you were a kid, you wouldn't go into your mom's garden and stump on the flower beds or wreck your dad's work-shop. But we feel we have the right to utterly abuse the creative work of our heavenly Father. I'm not talking about anyone in particular, I'm explaining my point on why indecency of any sort is blasphemous. Flag, as important as it may be to men, is a human creation. I do not feel as strong about its destruction as I do about abuse and desctruction of human life.






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 08-08-2006, 07:25 Post: 133087
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Youse Guys (a Northern term, I use "you all" Laughing out loud) there is so much that is lost in print. The attitude or tone is not as easy to pick up and therefore how something is meant can be lost.

A person can ask "Why are you living here?" and not mean any thing wrong. Or they can be meaning you need to move as we don't like your KIND. A person can tell you the Bible says such and such the same way. It comes back to the reason you are asking or telling and your attitude.









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 08-08-2006, 07:51 Post: 133089
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Denis

"Mental anguish" is difficult to measure and prove. It's also very subjective. I, for instance, experience mental anguish, whenever I hear a liberal open his or her mouth."

Laughing out loud, Ditto..... So can we outlaw Liberals?????

Now them African Bushmen put gourds on themselves and prance around with this silly looking Gourd on their, well theirs. The Young males in some tribes have a BIG ceremony where they are circumzied in PUBLIC. Girls have a ceremony where they go thru Nude, processes as well. The people doing the ceremonies don't look at what they are doing as Bad, so in God's Eye I am sure it isn't.
I fully understand your point of view and you are entitled to it. Allow me to take it a step further. Would not muscle building and then showing off the body in competitions and shows not be the same exploitation as you refer to? Why is showing a couple making love evil? in what way? Yes! I understand there is Porn that takes it way beyond normalcy but there are Shows on TV that do the same for the violence end of it, such as Terminatior, Aliens and most Prime time Shows. Are we committing sins just entertaining ourselves with programing? We are able to watch EXTREMES on the violence side and anything to show the Love side is deemed Bad taste or Porn.

I am not presenting my arguement well, I know in my mind what I am thinking but am having a difficult time putting it all in words.






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 08-08-2006, 08:23 Post: 133090
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EW: please disregard, bible quote moment : )

WW,

"Are we committing sins just entertaining ourselves with programing?"

we sure are; to paraphrase: "If a man so much as looks at a woman with lust he has commited adultery in his heart". I'm not trying to be killjoy here, I'm just saying there's a far greater decency standard out there than what is allowed by FCC and it would behove us to go for the higher standard. Do I always follow the higher standard? I'll plead the 5th on that one...






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 08-08-2006, 08:46 Post: 133092
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KT: "Youse guys" isn't a northern thing as in where I'm from. It's mainly eastern seaboard (NY, Mass., etc.). We...ahem... speak proper english, thank you very much. Where I'm from where "you" can imply one or many in a group, just like "they" can mean one or many. BUT we (I) do say "you guys" and I have to catch myself down here in mixed company as a matter of respect. Case in point, I was working for a female customer yesterday whose friend/helper is in-your-face gay. He refers to himself as Mary---so I was at a loss for words when I bid them good-bye as I started to say "see you guys later"--neither was a "guy" Laughing out loud. Mary had a wide grin on his face when he watched me trip over my words. All in a day's work though. And KT, like you suggested privately (thanks) I had many a Coke, even dinner and lunch with them and they are just good, down-to-earth people. But, to be fair they were long-time transplants from New Orleans living here is Miss.






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 08-08-2006, 09:11 Post: 133094
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You are forgiven my son. Go forth with thine post and prosper. Fill your loins...errrr...that was a line from a porno flick---never mind---wrong discussion group.

What's funny is the naked bushmen being exploited by porn as stated above. Now that's NOT one video I'm going to rush out and buy---"Bushmen Gone Wild", or "Umaba Does Africa".

And while I'm on the subject, ever notice that those who preach against porn, prostitution, being gay publically are the ones who are addicted to it privately---Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker come to mind.

Porn, just like any thing else is in the eye of the beholder. Just like drinking is. I saw a preacher the other day drinking a beer, on a Sunday. And back home south of Detroit (I lived north of) the Catholic churches have "beer tents", "carnival days", and "Bingo nites"---hmmm. The last time I looked those were all Sins (capital S).

Bottom line, it's all what you want to make it into. Or for some, justify.


But I'm jis' sayin'






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 08-08-2006, 09:27 Post: 133095
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EW,

"you all" fits both ladies and gentleman and those who are
neither.

For the record I learned youse guys from nephew who grew up in Dayton Ohio. Lady who works with me is from NORTHERN Ohio and she uses it.

As to some of the SINS you mention, some are very well spelled out in the Bible in very simple language. Some are not so well defined. Those you mentioned are well defined, just as homosexual is.






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 08-08-2006, 09:56 Post: 133097
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KT: I can understand now since they are from Dayton! The use of the slang term "yous" is used by largely those of limited...ahhh...edumacation. However the term "ya'll" is not necessarily considered slang as it a contraction of two words "you" or "ya'" for short and "all".






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 08-08-2006, 10:16 Post: 133099
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EW,

ain't nothin' wrong 'bout havn' a beer or two on a Sunday or any other day, even for a preacher - he's just a man, too.

I come from eastern european stock - we take our beer seriously. ; )






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WW: I am not sure why you can not find the data the 1860 data is below from the government site. The % families that have slaves is a little more difficult as you need to review individual county returns. An example on the web is. www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/ncmacon/1860/1860ss.html

I have always wondered why anyone was fooled by the likes Baker or Swaggart. Unfortunately, “Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile, but public definite enlistment for Christ makes you a Christian.” Billy Sunday






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