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Mississippi - state of mind
WW,
I'm not at all saying white ownership of blacks was the worst example of slavery in history; in fact, it might have been among the mildest. The problem is the interracial nature of American slavery.
Many nations who practiced slavery could get over it because 2-3 generations after slavery ended there you couldn't tell who was the slave and who the master - so long as skin color was the same. Or the nation that enslaved another nation no longer did so. We don't have this luxury here - anyone with African features will forever claim victim status because of what happened centuries ago and they are not about to leave either, nor should they have to. Recent black immigrants are anothger issue; funny thing how many actual Africans cross the ocean now a days and cry about racism once they settle here.
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There are Blacks in every country of Europe and they were slaves in about every country of Europe. You can tell a Greek from a Roman, a Turk from a Greek, etc etc. I can tell a Chinese from a Japanese or Korean. Cultural evidence of slavery still exsists in European countries, but War was among most every country there and at one time or another, every country ahd been at war with another. Here in the States our faults are more focused. We aren't surrounded by 50 countries that make up our history, our history is much more limited, much easily focused on. It isn't a maze of confusion as it would be with England, France, Spain or so many other coutnries.
I think Americans allow themselves to be victims of rumor and accusations. They deligantly snap to attention when accused and admit wrong and pay penalties. I see this with no other country.
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"They dilligently snap to attention when accused and admit wrong and pay penalties"
despite the decades of getting stumped in the dirt that protestant ethic is still showing through. Somewhere it says that the children of the righteous are blessed to the seventh generation. I figure the last truly righteous generation of Americans to be the great generation who fought WWII. If you measure each generation to be the time it takes for an average adult to begin procreation, it's about 30 years now in the US. So add about 200 years to the end of WWII and that'd be about the time all hell should break loose.
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DenisS:
"EW,
It's a free country - what stopped your uncle from me the invention himself?"
How can you tie being "free" with "marketing"?
Assuming you knew my uncle (and you must have to make an off-the-cuff remark like that) how can you assume he didn't market it? The fact that an oil co. DID buy it qualifies as "marketing." For your edification, I have marketed my inventions going back over 20 years. It takes more money, more time, and more perseverence than you could ever imagine. My dad was an inventor also; he was featured in Popular Science Magazine in 1976 for a waste-oil-burning heater he developed that put out 6 million BTU. And he ran into marketing blues, though Chrysler and GM were in line to buy it.
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EW,
I am well enough aware of how difficult it is to put a new product on the market and your uncle was hardly in a position to compete with established autoparts makers.
My comment had more to do with your contemptious comment about "big business". Big business exists to make money, pure and simple. Don't expect them to exhibit higher morals or altruistic attitudes. They bought out your uncle's invention because it suited their interest. Your uncle, may he rest in peace, didn't have to sell his invention.
What would you prefer, that we have no big business? that all businesses be small? Who makes just about anything you or I have of any commercial value? Some local mom and pop outfit? Big businesses aren't "good" or "bad" - they are money making operations, and, by the way, they pay a lot of people, including myself, decent wages. Very much unlike Big Labor or Big Government.
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Well my northern brothers ya'll won the war and look at the mess. I dont think we could have done any worse. Mexicans flooding the neighborhood, Arabs blowing up stuff, and Hillary maybe the next president. Damn you got to love It what a great country.
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SG8: How would things be different if the North hadn't won the war? And why does this "us against them" still persist today, That's more of a statement than question.
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You wont sucker me into some senseless argument over long ago evolutions. In order to put some answer to your statement I think it is like the cowboys and indians, or more recent times NFL Dallas cowboys and the washington redskins. It is the old chip on the shoulder, cant get it from under your skin. It seems to be a matter of competition more than right or wrong. You know wait until next season. I was trying to lighten up the post with my comments I called you brothers.
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SG8: "It is the old chip on the shoulder, cant get it from under your skin. It seems to be a matter of competition more than right or wrong."
SG, but that is the bigger question: (keeping in mind I'm Yankee and have not be engrained with Civil War still lives thinking---seriously) why does it have to be a a "competition"? To my mind it causes a rift, in the same way when blacks who are 10th generation americans refer to themselves as african-americans. They're as much an african american as I'm a german-american. Seriously, think about it---do you see the paralell?
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as far as I am concerned we are all americans, I am proud of my heritage and race. I think all americans should bring their children up to be proud of their race and not bring down other races. The world would be a better place.
I dont know why it has to be a competition, I was trying to give an explaination to your statement. I see and understand the paralell I think they have their heads up their butts. I know why the civil war was fought, I dont need to question it.
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